Wing commander, I agree you do what you have to do. When I first went to my football matches we had to stand and if you wanted to pee you rolled up a newspaper and peed in it. I accepted that and stood in many puddles of pee ( my mum was never overly impressed if I didn't take my shoes of when I came home :-)) but I do think in fairness to rebelfighter she was talking about a different half way house.
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Inappropriate Behavior
by rebelfighter innow i know i am getting older or of the older generation.
i have had a very strange day with a lot of strange dealings with people with strange behavior today but this one incident was just over the top.
so i came out of a store in a busy shopping center.
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Inappropriate Behavior
by rebelfighter innow i know i am getting older or of the older generation.
i have had a very strange day with a lot of strange dealings with people with strange behavior today but this one incident was just over the top.
so i came out of a store in a busy shopping center.
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rebelfighter " we normally do not expect to find this behavior on our streets"
Well one day in 1979, Elton John the then chairman of Watford F.C arrived wearing some really laity gear, the glasses, the hat, the jacket, the platform boots, all completely over the top. Our manager Graham Taylor, took Elton John aside and said " We have standards and we have a dress code at Watford football club, and it's important we all maintain them"
Ok Elton was extremely flamboyant, but he was the chairman the man who was investing his wealth in to his boyhood club, yet he had the humility to accept the standards set by the manager he appointed, and then dress accordingly.
p.s I always admired Elton John for his humility, and for the fact he would after matches pop in the chippy and talk to the kids like a normal fan. I was one of those 8 year old kids in 1979 and Elton John you gave me many great moments in my life...thanks for for that and sharing my love of Watford F.C.
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According to one JW there can only be 1 of 3 reasons why you left.
by Bonsai ini asked an old jw friend of mine why so many baptized individuals leave the jw religion.
"did it ever occur to you, old friend, that maybe they know something that you don't know and have valid reasons for leaving?
", i asked.. his response set me back for an answer.
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Well my reason for leaving was, I realized following my football club was more important to me than attending the Kingdm Hall...crazy as it seems I felt Watfords slim chances of avoiding relegation were better odds than Armageddon coming :-)
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Inappropriate Behavior
by rebelfighter innow i know i am getting older or of the older generation.
i have had a very strange day with a lot of strange dealings with people with strange behavior today but this one incident was just over the top.
so i came out of a store in a busy shopping center.
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tiki " Gyms have showers...." That comment reminded me of the Seinfelt episode where George Costanza ( Can't stand ya) peed in the shower. :-)
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We were fooled by the. " Jehover" of the W.T.
by The Rebel ini think that's a fair comment.
but i am not convinced by the " god" outside the w.t so far, and i think that's also a fair comment.
if god exists why does he seem a complete liability to convincing the majority of decent people i know to associate with his one true religios organisation?
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Outlaw " is there reason to believe God exists?...no evidence so far.
is there a possibility God exists? There is always a possibility.
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And in my opinion that possibility is a long shot, but I have friends who believe in God, they never try to put on a show for me, and they certainly arn't trying to convert me. But God is real to them, and in my opinion they are lucky to have something that's " real" to them.
As for those posters on this thread that have expressed so eloquently why they still have a faith in God, no sarcastic comments form me, as I havnt been preached to or called wicked for not sharing that faith. My guess is somethings people believe which can't be proved, and maybe that's a crutch, a fragile hope but often its something inside a person which has nothing to do with religious training.
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We were fooled by the. " Jehover" of the W.T.
by The Rebel ini think that's a fair comment.
but i am not convinced by the " god" outside the w.t so far, and i think that's also a fair comment.
if god exists why does he seem a complete liability to convincing the majority of decent people i know to associate with his one true religios organisation?
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rebelfighter, thanks for the post. In my opinion who am I to argue a personal relationship. You don't have an organisation a Cathederal, or a church, but you have your " footprints in the sand" . Those footprints in the sand are light enough for me to respect. But I do think if we put an organisation/ church in front of those footprints, then those footprints should be challenged.
Thanks for a good answer as to why I should believe in God outside the W.T. In my eyes I respect that.
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Britain Branch Relocation - Chelmsford, Essex
by wifibandit inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i97qudi-jwe.
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Never work with idiots and W.T accountants and lawyers are not idiots. Property prices double every 10 years. So selling property in Mill Hill where property prices are high ( Mill Hill is 10 minutes by train from London) and relocating to Chelmsford in Essex where property proses are less high, is ridiculousness, unless ....I would love to know the answer.
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Who Starts the Great Tribulation - Jehovah or Satan?
by berrygerry inwho starts the great tribulation - jehovah or satan?.
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Just a fun thought but read the bible maybe Jehover is Satan.
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We were fooled by the. " Jehover" of the W.T.
by The Rebel ini think that's a fair comment.
but i am not convinced by the " god" outside the w.t so far, and i think that's also a fair comment.
if god exists why does he seem a complete liability to convincing the majority of decent people i know to associate with his one true religios organisation?
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I think that's a fair comment. But I am not convinced by the " God" outside the W.T so far, and I think that's also a fair comment. If God exists why does he seem a complete liability to convincing the majority of decent people I know to associate with his one true religios organisation? Ok let's be optimistic, and not overreact, I am sure iam missing some elementary answers as to why God exists, so no soul grapes but answers that God is blameless for the condition of the world today I don't accept.
Still optimistic for some great answers as for why I should believe a God outside the W.T exists.
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Are you sad or angry?
by raven inafter exiting the org, i mean cult, how have each of you felt personally about the lies you had been taught, the hurt from feeling betrayed by these people, actual hopes of once believed false teachings, rose colored lenses of seemingly just and right doctrines that turned out to be a bunch of horse $#!+, the shunning of family and friends?
right now i am going through the motions, i've just moved to a new home, which means hopefully no more elders searching for me at my previous address.. i can't help but feel sad though right now because of the fact that although i am not df'd ( maybe the elders will do it in absentia assuming i've been avoiding them and the 2 jc's they've invited me to as well as the last handwritten letter at my door before i moved ) my mom treats me as though i am dead to her, she says " i am living the life of a disfellowshipped person, and until i come back to jehovah this is how things will be because this was my choice to leave jehovah " ok i get it, but i don't- everyone has free will, so yes this was my choice but it is also her choice to shun me, especially after the "shun unrepentant wrongdoers" talk at the rc, funny how they come out with these talks to reel members back in.. she claims that she has an obligation to jehovah of which she promised to him after she was baptized not at 11, 13, or 17 ( young ages ) but fricken 26 years old.
i absolutely hate this organization and everything that it is, it's taken away my family and most importantly my own mother.. i always thought that a mothers love was to be unconditional, but hers for me is only conditional.
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To answer your question I am not sad or angry. Who should I blame the the G.B or the prisoners? Peoples excessive loyalty to an organisation? Who am I to judge anybody? So I try not blame or be angry, instead it's my life and the experience I realize made me who I am today. So it may sound absurd, but I try to be grateful for the experience, I hope making me better equipped to enjoy the rest of my life.